The Kalamazoo Gazette published a repulsive full page ad on Sunday, July
23rd by an organization called "ADC of Greater Kalamazoo" on the back page of
the first section. The text, in brief, labeled Israel's military action in
Lebanon as nothing more than a laundry list of war crimes committed by a blood
thirsty country with no respect for human life, basic decency, or a shred or
morality.
This strikes me as odd, given that Israel was founded in the aftermath of
the Holocaust, by Holocaust survivors. Israel's military is fierce, but they
are not committing genocide of Muslims or Christians. Examples of genocide
include the German Nazis and their collaborators throughout Europe, the Japanese
Army in W.W.II, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Stalin's Soviet Union, Rwanda, and the
Turkish slaughter of Armenians.
The Israeli military campaigns have been far more respectful of human life
than those carried out by the United States and Great Britain in W.W.II. The
US and English air forces had, as their primary strategy, the carpet bombing
of all major cities in Germany and Japan. In Germany, we dropped so many
incendiary bombs one night on Dresden that the entire city was engulfed in a
firestorm and burned to the ground killing tens of thousands. In Japan we dropped
a nuclear weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing hundreds of thousands to
finish the war.
As Americans, we reconcile these barbaric tactics with our basic need to win
the war and survive. Many have argued that as savage as our tactics were in
W.W.II, they saved lives in the end by shortening the war.
Regarding Israel, they too are in a battle, perhaps to the death, for their
survival. Indeed, it is the Palestinians, the Syrians, the Iranians, and,
until recently, the Iraqis, the Egyptians, the Jordanians, and the Lebanese, who
have, since the day Israel was founded, promised to wipe Israel off the map
and drive the Jews into the sea. Wiping Israel off the map is a cornerstone of
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's very popular President.
With the right kind of ballistic missiles and a few nuclear warheads
President Ahmadinejad may well make good on his promise to destroy Israel and kill
all the Jews. But before Iran acts directly, they use proxy groups like the
heavily armed Hezbollah in Lebanon. Hezbollah is the best trained, best
equipped, and largest terrorist organization in the world. Hezbollah is a part of
the Lebanese government, and, has free reign to operate militarily in Lebanon.
Hezbollah in Lebanon is exactly the same as Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan prior
to 9-11.
Hezbollah's large parades in Beirut typically consist of large battalions of
masked men in military fatigues marching Nazi style holding up an AK-47
assault rifle in one hand and a bright yellow Hezbollah (not Lebanese) flag in
the other hand. On the Hezbollah flag is some sort of logo over which is an
AK-47 assault rifle. Hezbollah's mission is clear: kill all the Jews and destroy
Israel. The Lebanese view is also clear: we don't want war with Israel but we
have no control of Hezbollah.
Given that Israel has not committed genocide against any people, including
the Palestinians, has not carpet bombed any Arab cities, has not used nuclear
weapons, and has tried, as best as possible, to ensure their own survival
without using the very same tactics of mass murder all countries fighting for
the lives have used since time immemorial, I'd say Israel is still fighting and
dying by a higher moral standard, and with a higher regard for human life.
At this moment Israel could vaporize every major city in every Arab country.
But they have not and will not. If the situation were reversed, few doubt
Israel would be annihilated. In summation, Israel is fighting for its life as
humanely as possibly, and more humanely than most countries have fought for
their survival in wars past.
(the author prefers to remain anonymous, but wishes the message to get out)
Dear SIr ,
I would like to introduce myself to you, as I am mistakenly referred
to on your web site. I am the father of John Schlismann, who ( John) a
number of years ago while in high school, was unfortunately involved
with Matt Hales group. I can't possibly go into the rational of why he
would do such a thing, except however for the fact that he was an
immature kid who had to grow up, and you should know that I have always
vehemently opposed his views. I am not, and never have been a racist by
any means. My son's behavior and involvement at that time was
despicable - and against all that I ever stood for and taught him, and
I had never been supportive of his views. I have always been a lover
and supporter of all mankind, cultures, religions and races - some of
by closest friends have been Jewish or black, and his views were more
offensive to me than they could ever be for you or your compatriots.
For your information, as soon as he turned 18 he was told he had to
leave my house and take care of himself - as I would not allow that
kind of thought and activity to be present in my home.
I am happy to report to you that John has disavowed those beliefs over
4 years ago, and he has not been involved in any racist organization.
He has changed his views, he is doing well, and his life is moving in a
positive direction. I, as well as the school physicologist, both
thought that this was only a passing phase, and indeed it turned out to
be just that.
I don't know how often you update your website, but I implore you to
please make this correction soon, and remove my name, as I have NEVER
been involved or supported racism or anti semantic behavior, and
John's name as well due to the fact that it is no longer valid. I have
no idea if you have children, but perhaps you can understand that as
long as my son was a minor, I had no choice legally or morally, other
than to see him through this heinous time and pray for for world peace
and his salvation and deliverance from that sick and pernicious
movement. If you require it, I can refer you to many people that can
vouch for my character and my sincerity. I am a man of God, and a man
of peace, and I embrace and uphold nothing less than the highest of
moral standards.
I would appreciate your response to this matter. Seeing my name on
your website as a racist is slanderous to me - it is character
assassination against someone who is the antipathy of hate and racism.
Someone obviously made a wrong assumption about me, and it needs to be
rectified.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Sincerely,
Paul C. Schlismann
I sent this to you on May 11th and asked that you respond and take the appropriate action to remove me from your web site as well as my son John who had long ago disavowed his beliefs. This is a very important issue for me and I hope that you will take this action at your earliest convenience.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour". Exodus 20: 16
Looking forward from hearing from you.
Paul Schlismann
FUCKING KIKES! You are the most hated fucking race "if you can call it that" in the entire world and alway's have been. F--K YOU AND your bastard children of Satan!
The plans you have to take over are about to be exposed! Trust me! I sure as hell hope that Iran wipes you greedy fucking Kikes off the face of the planet! Stop coming to the US because you are hated here and your tactics are no secret! Most Americans know that Usary is alive and well and it won't be long until you cannot buy the Governement and use them and the media for your benefit!
F--K YOU! F--K YOU! F--K YOU! KIKE SCUM! Hitler should have finished the job long ago, so the world could be a peaceful place! But since he failed and only smoked a small percentage, hopefully the Arabs will finish the job!
Once again - FUCK YOU and GO TO HELL!
Shalom,
Guys, I'm all about Jewish self-defense and pride, but juxtaposing
automatic weapons on religious symbols is something that ISLAMIC
fundamentalists do. Maybe you might wanna change it so you don't seem
so, well, militant.
Regards, -E.
B'SD
Sir,
We will answer your questions with as best an answer as there is. Of course you must have a truly open mind to understand it, and since you claim to be pro-Jewish defense we will.
1. The JDO symbol, a gun over a Jewish star is a very important message; of we must be willing to defend Jews by any means necessary. It means of course protests, rallies, and a physical show of naked force against those trying to put the Jews in the cemetery. So, what JDO's symbol is a "defense of the last resort"? Now, because (and do not deny the fact) so many Jews are misled by the lies of pacifism, gun control, "it can't happen here" as well as we can just call 911 instead of actively preparing to defend our synagogues and ourselves, JDO has a 3-fold task. The first to tell Jews of the danger and why they must protect themselves. Two is to actually train the many Jews we convince; three is to deploy such people into JDO Security Team to actually patrol Jewish places from Jew-Haters attacks. Now, understanding how the JDO symbol counteracts the message of weakness and meekness put out by Jewish Establishment groups, Rabbis, etc That symbol sends 2 messages, one to the
Jew-fight back, the other to the neo-nazi or other assorted Jew-Haters, do not mess with us or else.
As part of Jewish History we will teach you about the Hon Zev Jabotinsky founder of the Jewish Self-Defense Organization. His group just to change the thinking of the Jews into backing creating future Jewish Army (this was 1920-48) as well as defense units in the Galut (countries of Exile outside of Israel) to protect Jews in Europe wore uniforms. This was very controversial. The Irgun, led by a Jabotinsky follower named Menachem Begin had a militant symbol a rifle in a hand across a map of Israel. The Hagana symbol was a wall and a sword in the background. The Israeli Army symbol of today? A Jewish star with a weapon over it, namely a sword.
Now, you would NEVER condemn the Israeli Army for having such a symbol would you? You have to ask yourself, the difference between violence of the defender and violence of the defender. A number of foolish Jews including the top heads of the Reform movement have just declared any advocacy of Jews (or anyone else) having guns to protect themselves is " idolatry”. Now, they of course are not yet in a Crown Heights Pogrom like JDO was helping protect Jews, so of course Rabbi Yoffie (of the Reform movement) can babble about no one should ever have a gun.
Jews must learn from the lessons of Jewish History or history will crush us. A large number of people who formerly were opposed to having (even legal) guns in the hands of Jews. After they attended a JDO speech, at which a DVD of Farrakhan openly threatening riots and trying to murder Jews and other attacks on Jews from neo-nazis, and JDO breaking up Neo-Nazi " Death to the Jews Marches!" a large number of Jews signed up for training, and to be part of the JDO Security Team and help protect their fellow Jews.
Two, last things, if you want to read more about Jabotinsky and his highly controversial group look it up on JDO website. Second you can order the JDO DVD from JDO WEBSITE.
The threat of Anti-Semitism is still very big. The views of the Nation of
Islam and the New Black Panther Party is not all that different from David
Duke, The Ku Klux Klan, Hezbollah, and other hateful, terrorist groups. Both
groups and their followers are very Anti-Semitic. The JDO has received some
controversy. I don't support violence, extremism or anything like that. It's
unfortunate there is so much hate out there. There are a lot of unholy political
alliances. The extreme racist right wing and the radical left wing both have a
hatred of Israel and Jews. Certain Black and Arab Extremists still peddle
"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" which was known to be a forgery
and propaganda when it was written about 100 years ago in Czarist Russia.
White Supremacists like David Duke and their ilk still believe in a "Jewish
World Conspiracy" and all this other nonsense. It's unfortunate that people
forget history. It is a tragedy that there is a Holocaust Revisionist movement and
even a Holocaust denial movement that has a big following. Any type of
racial or religious supremacy is dangerous ideology. America is not a Christian
nation. It is a diverse country with many religions, races, political beliefs,
and values. There needs to be more understanding and tolerance.
Sincerely,
Steven E.F.
It’s so funny how you idiots try to act all bad-ass and tuff, “oh lets go beat up Nazis!” Seriously, have you ever seen a Nazi?? What the fuck. Your people are a whole race of pathetic little weasels just trying to put others down to elevate yourselves. No wonder every one hates you. And all the white power sites get shut down because they “promote violence.” And your site, the anti-white site, calls for the murder of white patriots. You hypocritical scum, No wonder Hitler gassed you fuckers. But alas, he did fail as a leader because scum like you are still alive. If I could, I would round you up again and ship you to the middle of no where in boxcars like cattle and gas you, cremate you and sprinkle your ashes over Jerusalem, and be like, “here your home now.” 14/88: Please Reply J MURRAY.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MY MESSAGE WILL BE ACCEPTED BY YOU. BUT, IF YOU WILL, HERE IS A LITTLE INFO ON MYSELF. I'M FROM QUEENS BUT LIVE IN NORFOLK, VA. BLACK 32 Y/O MALE AND CHRISTIAN. I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT REV. SHARPTON AND MIN. FARAKHAN. BUT THAT'S FOR THOSE GUYS. I ADMIRE THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND YOUR PLIGHT. IT IS SO CLOSE AND SIMILAR TO THE BLACK PLIGHT. I REALLY CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY CERTAIN PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE JEWS. I TRULY CANNOT SEE WHY. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I THANKED G-D,WHEN THE VERDICT FOR THAT NAZI MATT HALE WAS RELEASED. I ALWAYS KNEW THAT IT WOULD COME TO THAT FOR HIM. HE REAPED EXACTLY WHAT HE SOWED. WELL, ANYWAY HOPEFULLY OUR PEOPLES CAN BE MORE UNIFIED. WE HAVE THE ENEMIES WHO WANT TO SEE US EITHER DESTROYED OR AT EACH OTHERS THROATS. NOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE BLACK MUSLIMS OR BLACK ISRAELITES. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. The Stewart case has resonance on a lot of levels. On the one hand, no defense lawyer wants to be in the prosecution's cross hairs for zealously defending a client, no matter how odious, and no defense lawyer wants confidential attorney-client conversations subject to Government bugs. On the other hand, Stewart wasn't simply advising Rahman, she was actively helping him in his terrorism enterprise, and specifically, sending out messages to his jihadi followers. Her statements to Rahman during the conversations covered by the FISA warrant and her statements to the press immediately after a visit to him prove that she knew and specifically intended that Rahman discussed dropping the Islamic Group’s cease-fire in Egypt and resuming their terrorist activities there. Interestingly, although Rahman expressed a wish to have the government relax communications restrictions imposed on him after his conviction, Stewart never, in hundreds of pages of transcripts, advised him that publicly renouncing his group's cease-fire might complicate these efforts. Anyone truly acting as a lawyer, not an accomplice, should have given this common-sense advice. Instead, Stewart recommended violence as a means to achieve Rahman’s goals: informed that a group in the Philippines had taken hostages to demand her client's release, she replied simply, “good for them.” The Government used this comment to undercut her testimony that she did not support violence against civilians.
I do not know who wrote this article but my opinion for what it is worth is,
its about time we clean up our own problems before the non Jews do. This
country and this world is on the verge of the worst things that have ever
happened. If the holocaust was not a warning to us then what was it? I tell you and
you can believe what you want, we were and still are chosen to do a job. We
don't get to have the life of blessings without doing the mission. Covenant is
a legal and binding agreement and with no one less than the Mighty One of
Israel, the G-d of Creation, Heaven and Earth. Whatever name you want to put on
the ONE, the Source, the HE/SHE of all.....and we made this deal, our
ancestors who stood at that moment in time and took that oath....then when they came
to the Land got cold feet. The Diaspora is over, its time to go home and live
the Torah and put an end to corruption, especially among our own people. How
can we continue to point fingers at the non Jews who do not understand what we
do and we do not show them what this life is all about. The prophets
declared and it is coming true in our own time and before our own eyes. How long
must YHVH wait and mourn us til we grasp what and who we are? The enemy of LIFE
is all around us because they do not understand what life is....WE are needed
in Israel and we are to TEAR down the idols of mankind and show the world that
OUR G-D is
G-D. We have shown G-d to be impotent many times and we blame G-d. How can
we blame G-d when we are not willing to live according to the agreement. Did
the Almighty not promise to defend us and keep us safe and lacking NOTHING IF
we kept the promise and the Land was part of the Promise, hence, Promised
Land....We are not going to have a whole lot of time left to pull ourselves
together. Jeremiah 16 declares that the fishers come first, then the hunters. We
have seen this in Germany. This country is another Germany and has been hiding
that for years. It should bring horror to American Jews the thought of what
they are on the verge of experiencing. If we take our talent, our money, our
strength and make haste to Eretz Yisrael then we have the promise of G-d's
salvation. A child of Yisrael living outside the Land is more of a target than
in the Land......May we have the strength to make the leap and not see the
Giants this time.........DE
Now that the traitor, Lynn Stewart, Esq., has been convicted (what a joy to
see those very words on the front page of the New York Post, Friday, February
11, 2005), the next step is to investigate the money train that comes directly
from Iran to Syria and Saudi Arabia which then travels to people like Lynn
Stewart and Ron Kuby, et al, plus the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and Hezbollah.
This money is disseminated in order to destroy the tenuous peace accord between
Israel and the new Palestinian order. Millions of dollars have been sent to
every major public relations firm in every major city in the United States to
create hatred for Jews in particular. This was documented a few years ago in
a small article that appeared in William F. Buckley's news journal "National
Review." Every time we read about an anti-Semitic incident on a college
campus, for example, Columbia University, Florida, you can be sure it was conceived
in the think-tank rooms of these public relations firms. Always remember the
money train provides the fuel for the this hatred. How much blood money has
Stewart lined her own pockets as a reward for her activities?
Shalom
Ron Kuby, Esq., and radio host on WABC- Talk Radio , Monday through Friday,
frequently refers to Lynn Stewart as his colleague as if she had angel wings on
her shoulders. I believe that he is sending out cryptic messages to his
compatriots. He said once to Curtis Sliwa, his partner on-air, in a low tone,
"Yes, I send money to Hamas and Hezballah."
Although he is Jewish, Kuby always, and I mean always, mocks Jews, using a
stereotypical "Yiddish" accent, which Sliwa (please do not trust him) laughs and
they both have a good time. Please investigate further Kuby's activities
with Hamas and Hezballah, because as I said, I think he foments hatred and uses
the radio program to transmit messages. On September 11, 2001,
just before the first plane hit the Trade Center, Kuby was railing against
Israel and Prime Minister Sharon, calling him a "war criminal," and it seemed
almost like a clarion call. I reported this to a local FBI office and the agent
said, "we are aware of him." Please keep your eye on Ron Kuby and his
possible contacts. Also, Air-America on WLIB radio in New York City,
frequently ridicules Jews. Al Franken has a segment called "The oy-oy show."
He speaks in an old-time Yiddish accent. I wrote to him complaining about
this, explaining that it stereotypes Jews and feeds the anti-Semites. However,
he continues. The afternoon host, Randi Rhodes, who is Jewish as well,
proudly refuses to discuss anything about
Israel, even when it is denigrated by a caller or a guest. Lately, she said
that "old Jewish people/old Jewish ladies in Florida vote for Pat Buchanan."
George Soros funds this station. Throughout the weekly broadcast, you can
hear snide references to Israel, especially on the Majority Report, hosted by two
women. I noticed the anti-Israel cracks are coming a bit more frequently, so
perhaps you can give a listen. Particularly, why is George Soros, a
proclaimed Jew, who supposedly, which I don't believe, survived the Holocaust, why
would he tolerate his money being used in this sordid manner?
I hope this is food for thought to monitor the air waves a bit.
Shalom
I have just read the article on Hatfill entitled "Who Will Take Away His License to Kill' on the Jewish Defense Org. page. I must say I found it rather sad and rather amusing at the same time. Whilst the author of the article did admit that the article was not particularly objective, I do have some of the following comments to make.
Firstly, I find the title 'nazi' offensive when talking about white South Africans. In the first place, the Afrikaner is not a 'pure' race or even pretending to be. The title 'Afrikaner' says what it means, an African. The Afrikaner is a descendant of Asian slaves (Indian, Indonesian, Arab, African) as well as of Huguenot refugees, Swiss soldiers, German soldiers, Dutch orphans and anyone else who happened to pass the Cape in the days of trade with the far East under the Dutch East India Company. He is descended from the most unfortunate of the unfortunate of all people.
I found the author had written with hate, prejudice and generalisations which he would protest against mightily if it were used in relation to Jews in the same way by someone else.
I found on a Jewish genealogy site in South Africa that there were some 118,000 or more Jews in South Africa at the time of Union. What does that mean? It meant that those awful nazi Afrikaners actually allowed Jews into their country. Since the Afrikaners at that time numbered less than a million, that was generous indeed to have souls planting themselves on them from different countries with a totally different exclusive religion, wasn't it?
Now why would they have done that? Did they have some compassion for those people? Did they feel fellow feeling for those people? Yes they did. Actually, the Afrikaner is very reasonable person and believe it or not, a committed Christian. Of course, I forget, the Jews, like the Arabs, do not think much of Christians or Shiksters unless they can use or exploit them. The Arabs are open and say the Christian is all right to be used as a slave. The Jew thinks of them exactly the same way but does not openly say so.
In addition, during the previous century, a large number of Jewish men settled in the town of Port Elizabeth, South Africa. They were some 2,000 men who were destitute from a pogram in Poland and so they emigrated to ZA on ships and asked to be let in. They were allowed to settle providing they married into the local 'white' population, the Afrikaner. These Jews assimilated completely and were even baptised as Christians. So a great deal of Jewish blood swills around the Afrikaner with all the other mixtures he has through his veins. The Jews were instrumental with some additions of Russian Jewish generals in fighting against the British during the Anglo-Boer war. They had been in the Russian army and were able to assist in the complexity of tactical manoevres. The Afrikaner did not have the mathematical education to fend off the British all by himself. It was during the Anglo-Boer war that many Afrikaner women and children died in British concentration camps, being starved to death and in sufficiently unhygienic situations to die from disease. The Briton, Kitchener deliberately did that I think in order to do a bit of ethnic cleansing. So of course, the Afrikaner, when it came to prior and after World War 2, was very nice to Jews and allowed more of them to settle in South Africa because they knew what persecution was all about. The Afrikaner on the Jewish site is then referred to as 'nazis'. For goodness sake! Not even Australia would take Jews at that time as they thought the Jews would buy up everything.
By the way the Jews in Australia who have come since were welcomed but in recent times, people are not very fascinated with them because of massive money-laundering and bogus investment schemes which have creamed off millions from the Australian taxpayer. The Australian population does not feel so sympathetic now because they feel the Jew is the stereotypical thief he has always been portrayed to be in fiction and in plays. Some people have wondered now if the real nazis had a point. (I refer to the Nachum Goldberg and Max Green cases here.)
In fact, the Jew is perceived to be a bit of a 'nazi' himself with the way some Palestinians have been treated and with the proposed Apartheid or Palestinian state in a country which he, as a Jew, had vacated over a 1,000 years ago. If you leave, you leave and if you stay and want to stay, you fight to stay. Instead, they decided to penetrate all of Europe. South Africa in fact has been a lot nicer to the Jews than the Jews have ever been to South Africans.
When one reads such garbage that damns an entire group of people because of a certain Wouter Basson (who was descended from Asian slaves actually) who may have done all sorts of things, actually and by rumour, then one understands completely the meaning of the word 'prejudice'. What has happened in Southern Africa has been the ceding of whites their right to live in peace and not be murdered. The Boer or Afrikaner today is murdered one in four on his farms under black majority rule. They are forced to share schools with people who often have Aids and other diseases. They are forced to have an education with people have a totally different culture and often religion from their own. They do so with good grace and because they have no choice now. The Jew has not done half as much because his culture is so precious. Because of the Holocaust, no-one dares these days to insist that he assimilate in the same way as the South African is expected to.
The Jew is not so racially pure either. There Ethiopian Jews and Jews who have blonde European genes. They are also racially mixed up by their history of being slaves during history.
The South African Jew who did not gap it to another country like Australia or America when black rule took over, ensure that they buy their Apartheid in South Africa by living in secluded neighbourhoods and by going to their own precious private schools where blacks are not allowed because they are not Jewish. That is Apartheid.
That is not to say that the Palestinian is not equally a precious bastard about his culture in Israel. Just imagine how nicely they would all get along if they integrated and intermarried? Just imagine Israel with no apartheid?
Now as far as Hatfill himself is concerned. I think he just went to Africa to ward off Communism. Once there, he was appreciated and regarded as a friend. He hung around for a long time. He may or may not have been a double agent. He may have developed bio- weapons. But... We cannot blame a man for the spread of anthrax in Zimbabwe just because he was there and may have known a Dr Symington. Jewish doctors were there too and would have known Dr Symington. In fact there were Jews in the Rhodesian army. Did a Jewish doctor spread anthrax in Matabeleland based on that possibility. Scream! That is racism!! Is it?
Actually, South Africans have assisted Israel (through the Afrikaner Nationalist Government) in the development of all sorts of defence for Israel. So for all you know, some bio-weapons might be in the hands of Israel itself as a last resort. It is believed that South Africa assisted Israel in the development of some nuclear defence systems. Certainly an explosion some time ago in the Indian ocean near the coast of South Africa was supposed to be a nuclear device for Israel. All under an Afrikaner government.
When I read an article like this one, all sympathy for the Israelis of this world evaporates. Hatfill is innocent until proven guilty of a crime. That is his right. Jews who have fought for the rights to be regarded as equal in the countries they have emigrated to should understand that. Right now, no-one has said he has killed anyone whilst in civilian life and no-one seems to know if he has actually killed anyone when he was allegedly a soldier. I reckon he has probably told a lot of fibs and that his main function at any time in Africa was a doctor and an American agent to see what the hell the South Africans were up to. He has been subjected now to a trial by media, of which Jewish defence Org, is a part.
In terms of killing, I think over the years the Israelis have done pretty well themselves in that regard in their own country. They have done all the fascist things they call 'nazi' in others.
I think that if the Jews as an ethnic group want the rest of the world to feel sympathetic towards their cause they should put a stop to the prejudice, lies and idiotic, unproven connections put about by people about particular groups such as the Afrikaner such as the author of this piece has done. Anyone can get some facts and put a colour to them. That is a distortion of the truth. A lie. Stop lying. I think South Africans would be heartily insulted by the lies in this article and since so many of them are in other countries now, do not call upon them any more as allies. Fairweather friends the Jews are aren't they? Particularly with an article like this one. I am disgusted. Your lot are as fanatical and as foul in your writing as any of the Islamic group web pages that I have seen that spout against the Jews.
Hatfill did not nothing to you that you can prove. Prove it first please. If you have adequate proof that is not innuendo or an assumption based on loose facts then give it to the FBI. Then allow Hatfill to go through due process of the law.
JDO HAS NOTHING AGAINST SOUTH AFRICANS, AFRIKAANERS, OR AFRICAN AMERICANS. ITS NAZIS WE DONT LIKE AND HATFILL WAS IN THE AWB. BASSON IS AN EVIL MAN BUT THERE IS NO LINK TO THE NAZI PARTY OF SOUTH AFRICA.
1. I believe that Arafats attempt all along has been to destroy
Israel. If he has a chance, he would try.
2. Israel should not give up any land. Not even a tenth of an acre.
It is completely clear that the definition of
"ending occupation" means that Arafat wants to remove all Jews from
Israel.
3. We should not cave in to his demands. 'Caving' as termed has only
showed weakness and increases terrorism.
4. The "Peace Now" crowd does not understand pure evil. I don't think
they understood it in Germany.
I hope they learn before it is too late.
Arafat is just another Hitler. He was given the chance to have his own
state through Jordan and did not pursue it, he doesn't care about
Palestinian people.
A sudden war, with all borders surrounded? At that point with that
much land lost, utter failure it could be disasterous - there could
become an uprising in the government. If the government fell during
such a weak point, it would be horrible.
Some citizens militias would probably form as well on brink of
destruction. It's obvious that Arafat is gaining ground through
division.
I have thought many time about what would have happened if Al Gore had
been president when 9/11 came - I shudder to think about it.
To whom it may concern
I came across your web-site a few days ago and I like what I see. You guys
did some good work putting that site together. I'm glad to see at least
someone is standing up to these nazi thugs. God help us if they ever took
power again like they did in Germany many years ago.
I am disturbed by the rise in racism and anti-semitism in North America as
of late. In fact in my own city, a new group called BC Whitepride has set up
shop. One of these guys lives just blocks from me, it's kind of creepy.
There web-site is www.bcwhitepride.com. Check for yourself what the
sociopaths are all about. I was shocked. There no different from many other
nazi organizations. However them being in my town makes it worse for me.
Keep up the good work, I'll talk to you later.
Frank
There is a club/group on Yahoo that harbors anti-Semitic feelings. The name
of the club is "Celebrate European Culture" and is run by a openly racist
"christian" teenage girl, a Kristy Winn. One of the regular posters on the
Message board is a sick individual named Jason Baran, who identifies
himself as a "true Catholic." He idolizes Nazi supporters such as Father
Coughlin, Father Leo Feeney, Cardinal Hlond of WW2 Poland. Baran uses a
Latin name as his on-line name on the club. Ms. Winn uses the name
"hollywood_horror_movie_star" as her Yahoo nickname.
let me get this strait, your are training militant jews to attack just who ever happens to piss you people off? well no fucking wonder people fuck with you stupid cock suckers, your are a threat to the white race.i hope you and those worthless sand neggers kill eachother. you cock lovers can never stop what Hitler started in order to proteck us from your control tactics and propaganda spreading. it looks like Hitler took care of a few of you militant basterds. you can never stop us we out number you and we won't fall for your shit.
I am conducting research on the Jewish Tribal Review website at
and the organization or individual(s)
behind it. Do you have any information you can share in this regard?
The domain was resistered to a Ron Kelley of Dansville, Michigan and
correspondence has been signed as "JJ". The site refers to an
organization called the Crosswinds Collective.
Thanks.
- Ray Franklin, The Hate Directory
www.hatedirectory.com
HELP US
THE JEWISH FRENCH CITIZENS ARE NOW IN DANGER IN FRANCE / SYNAGOGUES ARE BURNT, AGRESSIONS IN STREETS, JEWISH SCHOOLS WITH INSCRIPTIONS REMEMBERING A SAD PAGE OF FRANCE HISTORY –BEFORE AND DURING SECOND WORLD WAR.
FRENCH AUTHORITIES DO NOT ACT WITH NORMALITY: POLICE PROTECTION, ARRESTATION OF THESE TERRORISTS, AND WHEN IT HAPPENS LIKE AFTER BURNING CRETEIL SYNAGOGUE OF CRETEIL SANCTION WAS 6 MONTHS AVEC SURSIS, LESS THAN FOR A RUBBERY OF AN APPLE.
FRENCH AUTHORITIES (WHATEVER LEFT OR RIGHT PARTIES) APPOYING PALESTINIANS WITHOUT RESERVE ARE FORGETTING THEIR TASKS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY?
ONLY A PRESSURE FROM INTERNATIONAL DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES CAN TODAY AVOID TO GO FURTHER IN THE ROAD OF ANTISEMITISM APPOYED OFFICIALLY.
HELP US
ARMAND BENATAR
Dear Sir:
I am writing about a suggestion that is not quite so confrontational as your usual modus operandi but is very much consistent with your goals. One of the major challenges that will face the Zionist movement is the immigration of Arabs to the United States. The tragedy of 9/11 provides a window of opportunity to create an unobtrusive anti-Arab immigration movement. It would be useful, for instance, if a coherent letter writing campaign were begun opposing Islamic Arab immigration to the United States on the grounds that Arab and Pakistani immigrants pose a safety threat to us. The writers of such letters should NOT be identifiable as Jews because that would characterize the movement as pro-Israel, which would needlessly use up chips. What I am suggesting is that maybe several thousand letters show up on George Bush's doorstep urging the ending of Islamic Arab and Pakistani immigration on the grounds that such immigration poses a safety threat to ordinary Americans. This is a valid concern in itself, and if you think about it has important strategic implications for the Israel lobby.
I am not a Nazi, but reading the ranting and ravings on your site really
makes me see why Hitler hated the Jews so much. I'd like to run into 4 or 5
of your "trained" Jew-boys and crush them one night.
The Jewish people will never rise out of the self imposed abyss of pity
until they let go of the so called "holocaust". It has been proven that it
would have been impossible to have exterminated 6 million people even with
the camps running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for the number of years they
were allowed to. Regardless, to let such a thing define and color your whole
people is childish. Grow up.
get your coward asses out of Palestinian.it takes a big man to hunt down
rock throwing children with automatic weapons.Palestinian is not fucking
isreal you cunt jews.your dial-a-nazi page was a good idea, i've made my own
dial-a-fucking-cunt-jew page.local cunt jew owned stores will be dealt with
along with the local cunt jew population.its now a time for action and to
quote a famous line"heads will roll,theirs or ours"
I really wished some of your members would visit this URL and post some correct information to these misguided people. Some of the propaganda they post is simply sickening. The moderator, (handle Infidel) of this board has posted such comments as I would believe the Nazis before I would believe a Jew,
The following URL is a free BBS provided by Voy.com and the operators and moderators of this board really go out of their way to trash Israel, make outrageous and false statements.
I am not Jewish, but I respect Israel for what they are going through and it sickens me that the U.S. is not backing it's best friend in the world.
I would appreciate it if you would ask some of your members to visit this board and post some relevant, current and truthful information and help us all who fight this blame America, blame Israel mentality.
You will be amazed at how fast you will be banned when you do so.
At least we can all flood him with email and hopefully he will shut this and the other boards he has down, Complain to voy.com, PLEASE HELP US!
Here's the URL, please help us......... let's flood this guy with correct information and put this propoganda machine out of business
Please, many of us love Israel and we are asking your support to help us expose and clean up the types of things that are posted at this BBS The URL is
BBS
Apparently, the lives of the Palestinians and Arabs who have created 3/4's of the troubles in the world are more important to the European Union than the lives of Israeli's and Jews. So what else is new, they didn't care in W.W.II. Europe stuck their heads in the sand then and allow Hitler to prosper.
I say never again. I will begin to call for a boycott of anything European by every Jew in the world.
Scott Hozman
I'm not Jewish, but Christian, and I have to let you know that we true Christians may be the only friends you have (and visa-versa). Awesome web-sight! Keep up the fight & morale. I agree with what I've seen on your sight so far and know that the further we get into the future, the more we two peoples have to pull together. I'm not talking about 'nations.' Nations are blind to the truth of Jehovah. But we cannot afford to be blind or deceived by the Great Satan and his minions. Watch your backs. We'll watch ours. And probably soon we can watch each others. Muslims, Buddist, etc. (ie. all non-Chritian/Jewish religions) have NO claim to our world and we must defend ourselves against their evil with God's assistance until his inevitable return.
One thing I want to comment on... Our national leadership. Remember and/or inquire about the background of our 'great' leadership. Remember from whence he came and who stands at his side. Do Not put your faith in a man, but ONLY in Jehovah God, His son the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit. None other can save us. Not ourselves or a 'honey tongued' leader that is now putting unwarranted pressure on Israel's leadership to promote 'peace.' Look into the founding and history of the U.N., Illuminati, Tri-lateral Commission, 'The Establishment', etc. and beware you do not support a wolf in sheeps clothing. Remember that the anti-christ will have a silver tongue... and there will be many!
May God richly bless you and keep you.
Follow only his narrow path.
'A Patriot in Faith'
Jews,
The war in Europe has been over. Get over it! Stop dwelling on the past and
move on. Sure your Nasty people lost quite a few lives. So did my people. The
Germans.
The true SS is now retired, old people who can barely get around. Leave them
alone. Two wrongs dont make a right. Do they? And who is to say that we even
did wrong? Are you GOD? NO, far from that.
Why do you have to insult Nazis? There is nothing wrong with National
Sozialistische. It's a workers union of that sort. SS is a different story.
Dont insult the word Nazi. Now I get offended by that. I dont believe in mass
murder, but I do believe in National Sozialistische though. Germany belonged
to the Germans. Not JEWISH SCUM like yourself. These people you are claiming
are NAZI, mostly are not even German. Get your GOD dam story straight!
I read some of you web site and seem to believe that you are vigilanties of
some sort. Terrorists is what you are. JEWISH SCUM! My experience with Jews
is that they are all LIARS, FAKES, and would sell there own Grandmothers
graves. Do you believe that? You should, It's a FACT.
EIN VOLK,EIN REICH,EIN FUHRER! HEIL TO THE FATHERLAND! YOU JEWISH
SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!1
Editors Note: Like we're sorry you don't like our website. If you don't want to see it anymore we suggest you poke out your eyes. All The Best! YORK, Pennsylvania -- Several dozen police officers in riot gear kept
demonstrators at bay on Saturday as white supremacists gathered to bring
their message of racial segregation to a city still feeling the lingering
effects of deadly race riots more than 30 years ago. Only a few white supremacists were on hand by midmorning, with more
expected to arrive for a meeting aimed at recruiting new members and
advocating an end to immigration. Witnesses reported a clash between the white supremacists and
demonstrators, although police did not confirm it.
Matthew Hale, the leader of the white supremacist group World Church of the
Creator, has organized a meeting Saturday at which he planned to recruit
new members and advocate for an end to immigration. Representatives of Hale's organization and three other white supremacist
groups -- the National Socialist Movement, the Aryan Nation and the
National Alliance -- were expected to attend.
Hale's scheduled speech has stoked fears of violence and anxiety over
York's ability to withstand such a divisive message.
Two Hale appearances in Illinois in 2000 ended in violence, with people
arrested after each melee. Several anti-racist groups known for provoking
fights with white supremacists were also expected in York on Saturday. Cathy Ash, the director of the city's human relations commission, thought
it was logical to try to talk Hale out of convening the meeting. She said
she was shocked by the e-mail reply she received earlier this month.
"I won't repeat the words he used about the difficulties in York and whose
fault they were," Ash said.
Hale, in a telephone interview Thursday from his home East Peoria,
Illinois, where his group is based, elaborated on his response to Ash and
his reasons for coming to York. "I told her that people like her that wish to integrate the country are
trying to destroy the country," he said.
Since police began making arrests over the summer in York's 1969 race
riots, former Mayor Charlie Robertson and eight other white men have been
charged with murdering a black woman visiting from South Carolina. Also,
two black men are charged with murdering a white York policeman.
Hale said he specifically picked York for his appearance because of its
high profile in race relations and because Pennsylvania has been a hotbed
of racial division. On Friday, the windows of various downtown businesses and offices in York,
a racially mixed town of 41,000 in central Pennsylvania, displayed posters
and banners promoting diversity.
State, city and federal authorities were to provide security Saturday,
including blocking off several streets around the library where Hale is
making his speech. They also planned to frisk for weapons and escort Hale
in and out of the building, police said.
A library conference room was reserved in November by Michael Cook,
director of the World Church's York-area chapter, who told the library that
his "church" would be meeting there, officials said. It was only this month
that library officials found out that this church was actually a white
supremacist group. Library officials researched the legality of canceling the event and
decided that such an action would not hold up.
That the event was allowed evoked a sense of betrayal from some York
residents and a fear that race relations could suffer.
"We thought it was just a joke at first," said black 12-year-old Na'Kwai
DeShields, waiting in the rain for the library to open Friday. "And we
thought people would try to keep them from coming." Many residents grudgingly acknowledged Hale's right to express his views.
But others were less accommodating.
"(The library) made the easy choice, but the wrong choice," said the Rev.
David McCullough of the predominantly white Asbury United Methodist church,
near the library. "There's a time to say 'No."'
Mark Potok, who tracks hate groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center,
said such organizations have been cooperating with each other to a greater
degree since September 11, often targeting places like York that are
weathering racial strife. McCullough said that, while the matter can't be ignored, he expected that
the community would emerge stronger.
"These events bring out the worst in people," he said. "But they also bring
out the best in people." 02) Neonazis run out of York: Black bloc and the working class (black,
white, puerto rican, jewsish, men, women, young and old) kick the
nazis out of York
Baltimore IndyMedia
12 Jan 02
Anti-racists showed up early morning in York, scouting locations and
smashing all the white supremacist vehicles they could find with small
scuffles with any white supremacists they could find.
The black bloc marched around for awhile, found some hammerskins in a
parking lot and scuffled before the police divided the two groups. Everyone
went around the corner and there the Nazis were held for about 3 hours
during Hale's speech (which people opposed to Hale form York took up much
of the space so that nazis couldn't attend, rumored that it got so crowded
the cops shut the meeting down and pushed everyone back to the street).
People chanted and yelled, and a few people were arrested after some
snowballs were thrown. When the library emptied out, that's when we saw more National Alliance
people like Bill Roper and Erica Hardwick. All this time the anti-racist
side continues to swell as it is joined by the working class in all the
diversity that is in York: black, white, puerto rican, jewsish, men, women,
young and old.
When the white supremacists tried to leave as the police protected their
exit, local kids led folks through an alley (York is a maze of alleys, they
are everywhere), to confront the nazis. The nazis got beat on for awhile
before the cops were able to come to their defense. They push everyone back
(the bloc is now dissolved throughout the community), and police attacks
and arbitrary arrests of black bloc and York locals continues to piss off
the crowd and build solidarity. A black blocker had her arm broken (or
atleast severly injured) in this confrontation, but the anti-racists dished
out more damage than they took. At this point everyone is in the parking lot where the Hammerskins
originally carpooled, and the police had abandonded it to protect the
nazis. Many of the vehicles are adorned with confederate and other white
power stickers in their windows, those windows don't last much longer as
the black bloc begins to demolish them. The cops make several charges to
clear the lot to allow nazis to get to their vandalized trucks. Again the
cops continue arbitrary arrests even harassing the medics, which really
turns the crowd against them. Most of the easy exits from the parking lot
are blocked by clumps of protestors. Repeated efforts by the cops to clear
a path through the crowd fail.
Eventually, the police have the nazis trying to escape down an alley. Local
crews lead the black bloc the way through alleys to catch the nazis at the
other end. At one of these alleyways one of the nazis trys to run down the
crowd with his white pickup truck hitting atleast one person (black bloc,
sprained shoulder by He's doing well :), possibly others, including a young
local girl which again really pisses of the locals. The nazi flees back
down the alley toward the parking lot, where the cops sieze his truck. Now whatever nazis could escape, try to going along different routes and
protesters attack them everywhere they find them, alley to alley, street to
street. Lots of busted windows and bloody nazi faces. In one confrontation
with another white pickup truck with white supremacist stickers, busted out
windows and packed with nazis... after being attacked by a crowd, on of the
nazis waves a gun and the crowd backs down.
Elsewhere nazis are harrassed and chased out of the city. Literally, they
were run out of town.
There were 25 arrests, mostly for disorderly conduct who were all released
by the evening. Two people had bails set at $500, which were paid, and
another has a bail of $25,000 and been charged with "assaulting a police
horse". The best part of it all is that they were run out of town by multi-racial
working class crews spontaneously organized (though using the organized
anarchist/anti-racist action presence as a seed to grow) kicked the nazis
out of town. Reverend Matt Hale, leader of the White racist and anti-Semitic World
Church of the Creator who spoke in York, Pennsylvania yesterday to seventy
supporters inside Martin Library and with hundreds of supporters outside,
today announced that the event was a "fantastic success" and that he will
be coming back to York "very, very soon". Below is the complete statement
from Reverend Hale:
Our meeting yesterday in York was one of our most successful to date. We
both had a full house as well as hundreds of Brothers and Sisters outside
who stood tall for the Cause and fought with their fists and whatever other
means necessary to fend off the maniacal anti-racist and black savage mobs
that formed. The anti-racists paid dearly for their attacks upon our great
comrades who demonstrated the courage and virility of their ancestors and I
am thus most proud. Hail to all of these comrades! We have forever stripped away the lie of the controlled mass media that we
are a "fringe" group or that we lack public support. Hardly! We are instead
the rising star of social activists who are determined to liberate our land
from those who have sought to pillage and debase it. We are the rising star
of true Americans who no longer want America to simply be a vassal state of
other lands or a place where anything on two legs can come to and steal
what is rightfully ours. We are on the ascendancy and the "anti-racist"
camp is becoming more and more bankrupt in the eyes of the public as well
as their own supporters. The violence the anti-racists perpetrated against
us yesterday, as well as completely innocent bystanders, has severely hurt
the anti-racist cause.
As a consequence, their numbers will only decrease and ours will only
increase. Already yesterday, our total forces exceeded those of the anti-
racists and one day, before long, our numbers will dwarf theirs. I wish to specifically at this time extend my continued comradeship to all
of my White Brothers and Sisters who stood together yesterday who
regardless of whatever flag they fly or whatever organization, if any, they
belong to, stood rank and rank together for the truest uniform there is:
their White skin.
Further, tomorrow I will be announcing my return trip to Pennsylvania for
an event that will absolutely captivate people everywhere and will
practically spin the earth off of its axis!
For now, know that I am coming back to Pennsylvania next month to reap
further gains for our great Cause begun yesterday! I will be coming back to
York very, very soon. I am outraged at the way that security was handled by the York police
authorities for the meeting called by Matt Hale Jan 12th at the Martin
Library. I and fellow Aryan Nations members were in attendance at this
meeting. What was York's plan, protect the library at all cost? What
happened to the security of the people attending? Because we were WHITE,
there was none! We stopped at the police department the evening before the
meeting and requested to speak to the person in charge of security for the
following day. After waiting 40 minutes or so and speaking to someone to
notify the "authorities" we were willing to fully cooperate with their
security plan we realized that these people had no idea of what they were
doing, or did they? Now I read that a young man was attacked in his car, AS
WERE WE (vehicle damaged and windows smashed out), frightened because his
windows were smashed and he had been pepper sprayed by the MOB who were
preparing to drag him from his pickup truck. In turn he hit the gas pedal
and ran over a few of them. You can be assured that if I were driving I would have left bloodied bodies
all over the place! WE WILL ATTEND ANY SHAM TRIAL YORK HAS IN THIS YOUNG
MAN'S BEHALF! We too found ourselves cornered and being surrounded by a mob
of communist muds and came very close to using our vehicle as a battering
ram to get through a police squad car barricade used to close off the
street. This entire situation could have been handled MUCH differently IF
York was concerned for the safety of the White public.
It became very apparent that the police were were instructed to control the
law abiding instead of the roving bans of savage negro beasts and their
ilk. We endured forced disarming, being provoked while anyone defending
themselves would be arrested. We will not tolerate this, we will defend
ourselves. We did not plan this meeting nor the security of it. For future
events we shall plan our own security. The police did not arrest rioters,
or those violators concealing their identity, or derelicts openly wielding
weapons, none of them were arrested. However they forced us to break up
outside of the barricades and go our own way through the mobs to reach our
vehicles, we suffered no causalities. Being white is mind as well as race,
only one cop escorted several individuals to their vehicles while the rest
would not. Any white, whether police officer or not, that either overtly or
covertly causes us harm or intends to cause us harm is also an enemy of the
White Race. They should be dealt with as one deals with a SAVAGE NEGRO
BEAST or any enemy of the White Race. I believe that all the Pro-White organizations that attended this meeting
will have to call future meetings at York's Martin Library until the city
gets it right! This is a suggestion I am making to all that attended this
fiasco! We can NOT allow ANYTHING like this to ever transpire again
without leaving DEAD bodies of the enemy scattered EVERYWHERE! I left York
a changed man no longer caring for ANYTHING non-white, they are nothing but
SCUM! If our race does not wake up and fight back as a whole there will be
no future for the White Race in this country or anywhere! Pastor August B. Kreis III is the Aryan Nations Minister of Information &
Propaganda.
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05) Rioting In York After Rallies Clash: ARA, Anarchists Decimated By
Cops, Skinheads Lose Dozens Of People
Bill White (Libertarian Socialist [sic!])
12 Jan 02
[Within the anarchist and left-libertarian movements, White is widely
regarded as one of the more dishonest forces attracted to the fascist
movement. WHite's story is featured on the Aryan Nations web site. --
tallpaul]
York, PA-- I just got back from York, and here's the bottom line: Between
one quarter and one half of the anarchist black block forces who attempted
to challenge the National Alliance, World Church of the Creator and
Hammerskins were either arrested, beaten, shot at, or run over by a truck
after launching several failed attacks on the white supremacist group. Less
than a dozen Nazis were injured or arrested. Approxaimtely 250 combined
white supremacists, approximately 100 anti-racist anarchists, and
approximately 300 mostly black York residents were involved in the
incidents.
Those of you who have never seen a truck hit a wall of people at forty or
fifty miles an hour could've seen it in York today, because one Hammerskin,
after being surrounded by an angry mob who was breaking his windows and
trying to pull him for his pickup panicked, hit the accelerator, and wiped
ARA out. Literally dozens of ARA people were injured most of them were
either arrested or limped away refusing medical treatment. The driver was
arrested and may be charged with aggravated assault with a vehicle if he
is, I will testify in his defense. According to police, National Alliance/Hammerskin/WCOTC members used
firearms to defend themselves against ARA on at least three occassions.
Shots were reportedly fired in at least one instance. In two of the
incidents people were arrested and then released, as the weapons were
legally and used legally in self-defense.
Police stated 25 ARA activists were arrested. 1 who run over by the truck
was hospitalized with serious injuries. I would estimate about 1/3 of those
who got away were injured, about 1/3 roamed the town nearly successfully
starting a race riot, and about 1/3 left.
Now, let me give you the whole story in chrnological order. I woke up at 6:00 AM this morning. I was supposed to be accompanied by two
LSN reporters, neither of whom called me the morning, one of whom left me a
message last night at 11:00 PM. Note to this person: You cannot pull out of
something like this 7 hours beforehand when other people are counting on
you. I am dissappointed.
I arrived in York about 8:45. I got to the library area just after 9:00.
The police there were clueless. I kept asking about media and public access
tot he event, and they told me none of their commanders would be there
until 10:00.
About 9:50 the violence started. The anarchist black block ws romaing the
streets assaulting people they thought looked "too white". Really, they
were a racist anti-white mob consisting almost entirely of white kids and
Jews. According to the police briefing and other journalists I spoke to,
they assaulted several civilian white people not involved in the
demonstrations and at least one journalist. The first incident of violence
I witnessed was when they attacked a truck with two NA organizers and broke
out its windows. After some confusion I got a press pass. Daryle Jenkins, who created a
phony press pass with the name of a newspaper in Ohio that doesn't exist,
got in no problem. I had an argument over my credentials. Eventually I got
in. Daryle spent quite a bit of time behind the lines phoning people in the
protest telling them what the police were planning to do with Hale and
others. I talked to the other reporters and discoverd that Jenkins had
called all the local newspapers beforehand and told them I was a racist
neo-Nazi organizer of the event. At least one reporter told me he had
"seemed weird" on the phone, and I think there were only about two
reporters who bought it one who asked me if I was an organizer of the
event, which I wasn't, and another who kept giving me weird looks. The first interesting thing of the day came when about 150 members of the
Hammerskin Nation, with about a dozen Aryan Nations organizers in the lead,
turned a corner and came marching around waving giant swastika flags. About
50 more joined them a few moments later. The media pool area was awful we
couldn't see anything but we had seen the Black Block running to and then
from that area moments before. The police had to deploy all their on site
troopers and all their reserve squadrons to keep the two groups apart.
Then the National Alliance came up with about 50 more peple from another
direction making it about 250 right wing people in all. The black block had
about 100 people in it, and it appeared that a lot of the other socialist
groups simply didn't come. I heard the JDL sent out two people.
It was peaceful and quiet and boring for about an hour, so I decided to
turn my media badge in, walk around, and start talking to people. I walked
over to where the NA was and was surprised to see Billy Roper standing
there, on the phone with Matt Hale, wondering why he can't get in to speak. It turns out that the police, who has set up a secret meeting place with
Roper and the NA and promised them a secure entrance to the area, had
abandoned them at the last minute and forced them to find their own way
there. This may have been miscommunication, because none of the law
enforcement agencies there seemed to know what the others were doing. In
the morning, for instance, an infantry unit in camofaluage carrying H&K
MP3s, shotguns and sniper rifles, had deployed in two of the buildings. At
the end of the day, the police officials had difficulty telling me who the
guys were and whether they had actually been carrying submachineguns and
shotguns.
So anyways I say to Roper "you know there's a hundred and fifty people
around the corner from the Hammerskins and Aryan Nations." And he goes "No
I didn't know they were here." So he then orders his people to march around
the corner to where the Hammerskins / Aryan Nations are. This of course was
the act that led to almost all of the arrests and violence. All of you can
thank me for that I guess (though that certainly wasn't the intent.) Roper and his crew march through this alley to the other demonstration.
This immediately sets the anti-racists, who have by now been supplemented
by about 300 members of that impoverished black residential area I
mentioned, into a flurry, and they attempt to attack Roper. The police,
being dumb, do not allow Roper's people to walk into the area they have
already secured for the hammerskins. This means that the police now have to
secure a front that is twice as long, and they have to secure a back
alleyway. No surprise that that anti-racist crowd, seeing the police do not
have enough officers on scene to do this, surges and begins throwing rocks,
bricks and snowballs. Several black fellows also attack the NA from the
alley behind, though the NA beats them off. At this point at least one ARA
guy was arrested. I am told that a few had already been arrested earlier
that morning, but this was the first arrest I was in a vantage point to
see.
Eventually the police realize that is they just let the NA walk over to and
hang out with the Hammerskins, they can secure them, and they do so, and
they secure them, and everything is quiet for another hour. Then the NA
tries to leave and the violence starts. The two Hammerskins who skipped out
early and got their truck were smart. All of the Nazis are now instructed to leave through this alleyway. The
police deploy two mounted officers and one foot officers to secure this
against a mob of about 250 people who follow. Not surprisingly, the mob
simply runs through the holes in the police defense and attacks the NA-
WCOTC-HS with clubs. The skinheads respond by taking the clubs from the ARA
starting to beat the shit out of them. I saw at least one ARA activist
surrounded by skinheads wielding the pole of his own black and red flag
getting the crap kicked out of him. Several of the skinheads get bloody
noses or otherwise bloodied from the initial ambush attack, but they
quickly seem to master the situation (though the fact that a police charge
dispersed most of the non-trapped behind skinhead lines ARA activists may
have played a role.) I am told several individuals
were arrested at this point. The Hammerskins then go to their cars. If they had read this news service,
they would have known not to have parked in the parking lot behind the ARA
rally. Not being LSN readers, they didn't know this, and as they start to
pack up they notice that the ARA activists are breaking all of the windows
out of one of their trucks. A fight then ensues between baton wielding
Hammerskins, baton wielding police officers, and baton wielding anarchists.
Two Hammerskins are detained at this point, but I saw at least one of them
released. I think another may have been arrested. I will state for the
record that none of the Hammerskins attacked the police, but several struck
back in self-defense after the police struck them with batons. The
anarchists mostly fleed at this point.
Then comes a period of uneasy calm as about 70 Hammerskins and NA people
(the rest dispersed through side streets) are surrounded in this parking
lot by about 60 remaining ARA activists and about 300 mostly black local
residents. Those of you who remember that scene from Zulu will know what I
mean when I say I felt like singing "Men of Harlech on to glory ..." I
almost did, but then I realized I would probably lose my neutral status as
a member of the press. Eventually, the police screw up again. They tell the Hammerskins to drive
out fo the parking lot though the alley they came in. No surprise when the
Hammerskins come around the corner and there is a mob of ARA guys attacking
them. The police tell this guy to drive his truck forward behind a
Sherrif's car. The Sherriff's car goes forward through the crowd, and then
he goes forward, and ARA pounces on him. They jump on his truck and begin
hitting it with clubs. They then take his flagpoles out of his truck bed
and begin to try to break his windows. Then they grab him and try to drag
him out of the truck.
The guy does about the only thing he can to save his life and I do believe
his life was in danger. He panics, hits the gas, the wheels spin, and he
rockets forward, sending ARA activists literally flying through the air.
One guy who was on top of his cab appeared to have landed on the other side
of a fence. The police then charge, and the show is over for ARA. More than a dozen ARA
guys are arrested (as is the guy driving the truck). How many people were
hurt, I don't know. Only one person, an ARA guy who wa not arrested, was
hospitalized. One of the black residents and several of the loudest black
residents were obviously intoxicated begins yelling that he has run over a
little black girl. This later turns out not to be true. No matter. Race
riots begin.
The police eventually get control of the situation, get the NA and
Hammerskin people to their car, and give them directions North out of the
city to avoid the black and ARA mobs which are now inciting passerbys on
the street and growing on several street corners. Several of the
NA/Hammerskins who didn't get the word drive South. I did not witness any
of these incidents, but I spoke to reporters who did, and these were alter
confirmed by the police. ARA attacked cars with skinheads in them in at least three places. In all
three places the skinheads in the car drew handguns and threatened the
crowd with them. In at least one case shots were fired (a reporter told me
he heard a "pop pop pop" sound, saw smoke, and saw people go running
screaming "shots fired" that sounds like "shots fired" to me, though the
police later said they could not confirm the incident). In all three
instances, the NA members successfully defended themselves, and the mobs
went looking for easier targets. According to police, in two instances, the
skinheads involved were detained and then released after they produced
legal carry permits (didn't I tell you?).
Phalaznes of twenty to fifty police officers then began to march through
the city dispersing crowds of mostly black local youth. In one instance, I
saw a crowd of black youth surround a city bus which three skinheads were
riding in, and the police escorted those skinheads out. The black residents
seemed much less willing to use violence than ARA, though I did see one
instance where one of the formally mentioned possibly intoxicated black
youth was arrested after apparently punching a police horse. I arrived at the press center just after 3:00, and I was told that the
press conference was delayed until 4:30 while the police suppressed the
remaining disorder. At 4:20 the conference began.
So that was my day. Wow. Let me sum this up this way: if ARA has two more
events like this, so many of their activists will be arrested or in jail
that there will no anarchists left free from the Ohio River Valley to
Massachusetts. And let me also say that I really felt bad for a lot of the skinheads. None
of them appeared to have expected this kind of violent attack on them, and
I don't think they knew how to react. I would suggest that the National
Alliance or the Hammerskin Nation begin drilling their people in how to
respond in a civil disturbance starting with the basic instruction to NOT
BREAK RANKS when charging either a police line or a mob. The skinheads
fought back best when they were attacked in an enclosed space while
marching in formation. They fought worse when they attacked without clear
leadership in a dispersed fashion an in anger when they saw their truck
broken.
As to ARA, I'm starting to think ARA and the black block are hopeless. They
are mindlessly violent. Several of the reporters there said they had such a
low opinion of ARA that their only thought was how to slam this kind of
"anti- racism" and get it approved by the editor. Several white reporters
privately told me that they felt the white supremacists had treated them
well, that they had been disrespected by the ARA, and that after seeing how
the ARA behaved they thought the statements made by Matt Hale against
blacks and Jews (broadcast to the press by a live feed through a monitor in
the media pit) were partially justified. All of that is a bit scary, but it is showing that things are changing. The
anti-racist activists in York were badly outnumbered, and were lucky that
so many of the city's black residents were willing to join them, or the
heavy losses taken by ARA would've been much heavier. The Nazis came out
stronger than I though they would, leaving over 150 people in the street
even after 80 of them had filled up the library.
It looked liked a Nazi march in Germany not a "neo-Nazi march", but one of
those old Nazi marches with swastikas and everything -- except the
uniforms.
I guess all of that falls into the thing about "discipline." Spoke wit [deleted] on the ground. Seems the fash report is not true as to
those hurt by the truck. As a metter of fact, what is only true of the fash
report is that there where riots by the community, specially blacks and
latinos (mainly ricans), and that there where fash arrested for firearm
violations.
EMAILS, WE GET EMAIL WE GET STACKS AND STACKS OF EMAILS
NAZIS COUNTING ON IRAN
THAT IDEAS BEHIND THE JDO SYMBOL
DEATH TO NAZI SCUM
BLACKS AND JEWS
G-D BLESS YOU.
AN ATTORNEY COMMENTS ON STEWART CASE
THE MONEY TRAIL
THE MONEY TRAIL
RON KUBY
HATFILL AND THE AFRIKANERS
JDO POLL RESPONSE
All in all, it seems this is the lowdown:
1) The community response from the black and latinos overwhelming. 500+.
The black bloc consisted of about 100. 50 or so from Baltimore, 50 or so
from Philly, plus assorted folks from all over the east coast. Redskins
from boston, new york and new jersey where present. It was well run black
front, no security breaches on the key collectives.
2) Intelligence before the activity was very good. A large percentage of
the fash cars were destroyed or badly mangleled. Meeting points where know
to key people way before.
3) All in all it seems it was a cop riot, and the actual anti-fash work was
of a quality unknown in the east coast for a while. It was buffalo-style
hit-and-run urban guerilla, under the cover of the race riot.
4) AFA had jackshit to do with it.